[Peerpress-main] Anyone alive out there?

[Walter Ludwick]

On 1/1/01 at 11:14 AM, nathan r. hruby <nhruby at arches.uga.edu> wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 kmself at ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > Just got another mailman reminder of this list.  Any interest in
> > carrying on this discussion or should we consider it well over and dead?
> > 
> > Context, for those missing it, is the peerpress mailing list started
> > spring 2000 for collaborative weblog content sharing and such.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Was wondering the same thing.. 


Ditto.

There was some good discussion back in March of last year (Happy New Year,
b/t/w/), then things went rather quiet in April.  From the archives, it appears
that the last post was this:
-> http://lists.copyleft.no/pipermail/peerpress-main/2000-April/000099.html
That was a ToDo list posted by Nick Lothian - unresponded to, as far as i know.

>From this earlier message by Joakim Ziegler:
-> http://lists.copyleft.no/pipermail/peerpress-main/2000-April/000093.html
- it seemed like there might have been a fork in the discussion, i.e.:
>> Lists for discussing the licensing issues and the XML DTD have been created.
Go to http://lists.styx.net/mailman/listinfo/peerpress-licensing for the
licensing list, and http://lists.styx.net/mailman/listinfo/peerpress-xml for
the XML list, to sign up. All interested parties should do so, etc. See you
there."<<

The links to these two splinter discussion groups don't seem to work today, but
from the evidence of these two variations on those urls:
-> http://lists.copyleft.no/mailman/listinfo/peerpress-xml
-> http://lists.copyleft.no/mailman/listinfo/peerpress-licensing
, it appears that splinter discussion groups were indeed initiated, tho msg
archive on the first one has just a few messages dating back to April, and the
2nd one doesn't seem to have any msg history archived.

So what really happened to this vital discussion?  I don't know, but a lot of
air seemed to bleed out of the balloon around Nick Lothian's discovery of the
ICE spec, i.e.:
-> http://lists.copyleft.no/pipermail/peerpress-main/2000-March/000067.html
, and his related comment:
  >>A (very) quick read seemed to indicate that it is basically what we are
trying to do.  Comments?<<
There were some follow-up comments, but nothing that seemed to suggest the PP
effort should be abandoned.  Avi went on to post revised spec proposals, to
which Nick and Joakim responded constructively.  Did any key player(s) lose
interest in the spring of 2000?  I don't know, but Rusty had gone silent by this
time -- which kind of concerned me, since it was him i followed into this
discussion from Kuro5hin.

For my part, i don't have the programming expertise to contribute to this
effort, but per my earlier message:
-> http://lists.copyleft.no/pipermail/peerpress-main/2000-March/000046.html
, i'm as interested as ever in participating in sort of syndication service that
seemed to be the underlying motivation for all the standard-setting effort that
went down on this channel.  Even if it now seems there's no need to re-create
some existing standard(s - ICE?  RSS 1.0 - or 0.91 refined in some other
direction...?), i still don't see any evidence on the horizon of the sort of
syndication network that PeerPress was supposed to provide.

Am i missing something?  If one of the key players from discussions gone by
(Joakim, Rusty, Nick, Avi... anyone?) could shed some light here, i'd appreciate
it.


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Walter Ludwick
wludwick at mail.walmar.com